Michael and Jane

(This is a full transcription of the public trance demonstration, which took place at Haslingden SNU Church, in Lancashire on 26^th October 2007. At this event, the Persian Gentleman invited members of the audience to ask questions. There then followed a short address by the Rose Nun and finally the Big Indian closed proceedings.)

The Persian Gentleman speaks: I am asking Michael to stand up but he won’t yet; there is a little resistance. It is necessary for Michael to stand up so that the energies flow better through him and so that I can move more deeply into him. He is now relaxing so I can begin to talk to you.

First of all, a great greeting from our world! Michael knows of my delight because I have told him, in being able to speak to you this evening, it is such a delight to be able to come this close to people on the Earth-plane and my message is one of joy. We always seem to be saying to you that ‘there is bad karma in doing this’ and ‘you mustn’t do that’. But there is also joy in living isn’t there? And life is a continuation and I am living proof of that.

I am one of Michael’s principle guides; I have been with him since he was conceived - since before he was conceived - and I have been with him at key points during his life and his life has been moving towards this point where we can communicate more freely through him. He has been afraid but I have told him that there is nothing to be afraid of, that we would never do any harm to him nor would we bring any harm to you this evening.

I lived here a long time ago, a long time ago. I had many lives but the one that Michael knows me best for is the life that I had in Persia and in Persia I was in involved in astrology. I made star-charts and at the time when I was on Earth cataclysmic things were happening; wonderful things were happening; the world was changing. And the world is changing again now, which is why I am coming through tonight, which is why, around the world, people are being prepared for a change in thinking, for a change in attitude, for a change in the way that they look at life and at themselves.

This change has to come. I said earlier that my mission is one of joy but we have to also consider for a moment what is happening around this world. We have to consider the violence; we have to consider the thoughts that are not the thoughts that we would have you have at this time; we have to consider the boxes you have i.e. the televisions, the radios that bring through so much disturbance into the atmosphere. And there has to come a time when people set aside some of their day in order to be peaceful and they are not doing this.

And this is one of the messages we would bring through: that you need to be peaceful every day. And, if you are peaceful for only a few moments, then no harm can become you; you cannot become ill; you cannot become disturbed because you link with your oneness with God and that oneness with God is like a rock within - immovable, immutable; you cannot ever come to any harm. It is the life that surrounds you that harms you because you let it in, you believe in it, you believe it is reality but it is not. The thoughts that surround you are like gases, they are like mists; they swirl about you, they are infused with the thoughts, the wishes of humanity and humanity at the moment wishes to be afraid, wishes to be diseased, wishes to be angry, to be violent, wishes to debase itself (in general, of course, I am not talking about you brothers and sisters here).

But the pendulum has to swing and it swings by us convincing you that what you see outside of yourself is not reality; it is a dream. Even on my level it is a dream. We create our own reality from within, from that rock within, from that God within and God will bring to you whatever you desire but subconsciously on Earth many people desire negative things. They are overwhelmed by the mists, by the eddies, the swirls of vibration that surround them, that contain within them so much upset, so much violence, so much that is base and animal and we have to raise people up. Things have gone far enough!

I am welcoming you this evening into my home; Michael has visited it many times. So, as you feel that you are sitting here, you are also in my home, in my house, and my house is rather special because it is a house of dreams. Let me take you through it, let me take you through the double-doors that lead into the courtyard and, if you look up, you will see the tower that is so important to me. It is a tower that I constructed many years ago by my thoughts and my actions on Earth and it leads up to two of the most important things in my existence.

One is my library, which is a circle in honour of the circular nature of God and within that library there are all the books that have ever been published for good or for bad. And how can I fit all these into a circular room? Because I bring them forth from the Ether and I send them back to the Ether as I please because I am a spirit (as you are a spirit, each of you is a spirit) and I can pull forth whatever I wish from the Ether around me. So the library is my magical place, is the place where I still make star-charts; I still look at the Earth and see the eddies and the swirls of what is going to happen to people because of the constellations that come about - the conjunctions, I mean - that come about.

The second place is my balcony and, if you come up to the top of the tower with me, you can see from that balcony ALL CREATION. From that elevated position, you can see out across the spirit worlds and the spirit spheres all the way to Earth, all the way to God. And I stand here in the sunlight, in the overall golden light in a morning, and I am overwhelmed by the power and majesty and love of my God.

So sit with me here, look out from the balcony. And I would like to do more than that for you this evening, I would like to answer your questions. I would like you to think from your hearts for a while and I would like you to ask questions of me regarding all subjects spiritual and, humbly and with the best of my knowledge, I will answer.

Who over here wishes to speak?

Bobby: I have a question; if you just let me formulate it in my mind. The creatures of all descriptions on this Earth-plane that spirit in habit, are they the creation of the will of God or are they the product of evolution?

Persian Gentleman: It is an old question. The two are not incompatible but you have to understand where creation comes from.

You have to understand first where you come from, that you are a child, a spark, a replica of God and you have been sent forth into this creative area in order to grow. So you bring forth the reality. Within you are all the attributes of your God; you are not a mirror image of your God, you are a replica of your God. The only way in which you differ is in your understanding of that. So you create, shall we call it, a field of energy within which humankind exists. Each of you creates part of that field so that field is created by millions of people.

So, to go back to the beginning…How do you define the beginning - the beginning of your existence or the beginning of the physical Universes’ existence? There have been many physical Universes, many beginnings but always God gives to his children the ability to create. You have spoken in your churches of how you attract the thoughts that you feel are most important to you and you do but on a global level, times by millions of people, you create reality.

So there was time long ago (and this is a big question and a big story – I will only cover part of it) when there was that big bang, when there was that energy that created a physical Universe but the children of God wished it. And then was set into motion a series of events, because God does not stand still, God grows, God changes and there was evolution. This evolution continues but it is not divorced from God, it is a part of God given to his children who create as they wish and the life on your planet is continuing to evolve quite apart from you but it evolves within the reality that you have created. It evolves within the orders of that reality that you have created. Gods seeks to express Himself always, whether it is through a mouse, or a bird, or a human being, or a tree, or a brick, or a cup. Everything is alive, everything is evolving; nothing stands still except in the minds of men. So the creations that you have are yours but they are also God’s because you are God.

And I must talk about other planets because God manifests on other planets. God is other planets and there are other realities, other fields on other planets that are given to the souls of those that inhabit those planets to create with. So you will see other expressions of life on other planets but within those expressions of life there is the same spark.

You create. As an analogy: you create cows, you create domestic animals, you breed dogs and cats until they are of your liking and you say, ‘We did that?’ Well you did it all, you provided the vehicles that God inhabits and the sparrow is God, and the seashell is God, and sky is God. God’s greatest gift is to say to His children, ‘Go out and create and I will always pour forth from the Godhead, I will always support what you create for good or for bad’. So the creatures that are of this Earth are, like the domestic animals, ultimately created by God’s children within the field of energy that He has allowed them to inhabit.

And it is this field that we are trying to clear at the moment, to clear of the negativity that it has pulled into itself over millennia. It is this field that we seek to change and, for the reason that you are a part of God and a part of all things, you should be kind to all things. You should be kind to the sparrow, kind to seashell, kind to the house, kind to the cup, kind to the skies because they are part of you - created, co-created by God and by you many, many, many years ago.

Who else wishes to speak?

Peter: Could I ask a question about relationships in this existence? How many of the stresses and stains that we encounter in relationships between ourselves these days are as a result of previous existences, previous incarnations?

Persian Gentleman: That again is a good question and a big question.

Your essence is magnetic; you have, through many lives, attracted to you (and other people have attracted you to them) the people that you need in order to evolve. There are key people in your life that, when you incarnate, you are bound to meet. Bound to meet! You could set off on a boat and then get on an aeroplane and then take a spaceship and you would still meet those people because you are supposed to meet them. And the people that you meet that are key players in your life are of course part of yourself but over the millennia, over the many life times, they become soul-brothers and soul-sisters. You seek them out because you feel incomplete without them. That is not to say that you will be happy with them, you feel incomplete without them on many occasions because there are things that you have settle together, things that will challenge you together. Sometimes the relationship itself is the challenge, sometimes it isn’t but always you will be with the people you are supposed to be with so that lessons may be learned. And there is a lot of talk of meeting the right the person and feeling a pull to this person and to that person but much of this is caused by the physical-mind and the desires of the physical-mind. To truly know where your soul-brother and your soul- sister are, you need to feel with the heart, to expand the magnetic radiation from the heart, to cut off the mind, then you will feel truly who you should be with and why.

Every connection that human beings make is a relationship; the person you speak to at work is in a relationship with you; the person you meet on the playing field is in a relationship with you. It cannot be otherwise; we are all related to each other, it is just the intensity of the relationship that seems to make things different with certain people. But from birth you are pulled, you are destined to be pulled into a life, for however long, with the key people in your life. Isn’t it true that today you know people that you didn’t know a year ago or five years ago? And yet every day of your life you think, ‘These are the people in my life, this is the relationship, this is where it is going’. Five years hence there will be other relationships, other challenges, other people but those people will have been drawn to you and you to them by the need to evolve; whether that need to evolve comes to you through happiness or through nail-biting challenge. That is why you are with the people that you are with. There are no mistakes, even if your relationship lasts ten minutes or a hundred years, there are no mistakes. Relationships are about karma, are about challenge, are about evolution of the soul.

Does the lady at the back wish to say something?

Ann: Yes, I know about three people who would like to do spiritual work and they can’t get started. What should they do?

Persian Gentleman: They should surrender. They should surrender! The way of the spirit is difficult, the way of the spirit demands all- demands all, demands life, a life! But the way of the spirit demands that the person who wishes to evolve, wishes to be of service, place their life in God’s hands and to say, ‘Father, I am willing to serve’. In saying, ‘Father, I am willing to serve’, the way will open up to them.

If it does not, it could be because they are looking at things in the wrong way. Unfortunately workers on Earth very often wish to work in a specific way; they wish to heal, they wish to be a medium, they wish to counsel, they wish to speak publicly. They wish. No! GOD WISHES, GOD WISHES! Only when they are in alignment with that vibration within – God wishes - will they be of use to the spirit. They cannot dictate to God. If God has chosen them, then they will work spiritually. But it has to be on God’s terms and not theirs. We need workers for the Light, we need to come to a time when people say, ‘I see through this world, I see beyond this world, I am willing to give my life for God’.

Are they willing to do this? That is what they must ask themselves. This is not me being critical, this is me knowing how things work. God selects people. God selects people and He wants them to give up, to sacrifice, to say, ‘God, I love You more than the 9-5 job, I love You more than the goals that I thought I had, I love You more and in loving You more I see that this life is just an illusion and that I am only here for a short time and I choose to use my spiritual talents to make people better’. All work that we do is about healing, all work that we do is about making people better, whether it is the message that comes from your medium, whether it is hands-on-healing, whether it is praying for someone, whether it is looking at the world in a different way; whatever you do, you are making people better if you truly work for God.

So tell your friends to pray, to ask that the path be given to them, to ask that they are brave enough not to dictate to God, and God will use them. God is using them now but it has to be in His way, in His time, to His specification. He put them together, He knows how best they can work - they don’t.

As an example, Michael has been nervous about doing this tonight but he knows, through his experience over the years, that he simply has to fall and we will put a net under him. That is the kind of faith, the kind of peace, the kind of love that God gives and God demands of someone. You have to love God if you want to work spiritually, you have to love Him with all your mind and all your soul and then the gifts are given to you, then the path unfolds, then the people you are supposed to meet in order to progress are placed along that path. No request- true request - to work for the Light is ever denied but it has to be a true request from here (pointing to the heart-centre). Again we are coming back to here because this is what you are; you are the heart, you are not the brain, you are not the physical mind, you are the heart and if you work from the heart then wonderful things happen through you so that you can help other people.

Yes, one of my colleagues is here; I hate to interrupt you - there will be more questions - but one of my colleagues has given me a violin and he is reminding me (because I am talking and am not thinking all the time), he is prompting me to say that it is also a matter of harmony. Harmony! You can play a beautiful tune on a violin or you can make a terrible sound. (Did I tell you I like cats? I love cats, I have a kitten, I am not supposed to have a kitten but I have a kitten and the reason I tell you this is because if you play a violin wrongly, it sounds like my cat). You have to be in harmony, you have to approach God and say, ‘Father, today I will play a beautiful tune on the instrument you have given me, with my talents.’ So it is also a matter of harmony, being harmony with God. If you are in harmony with God, God teaches you to play. You will hold the violin and think, ‘How can I play this?’ and God, will say, ‘Trust Me, be in harmony with Me.’ And you will pick out simple tunes at first and then you will become worthy of taking part in a symphony. Because remember that, when you are working spiritually, you never work alone. You have people like me with you, you have angels with you, you have inspirers with you because what do you know, poor little soul on Earth, what do you know unless you channel the God within? What do I know unless I channel the God within? If you take up the mantel, if you decide to do spiritual work, then there will be hundreds with you, thousands with you from the elevated spheres right down to this level and you will play a harmonious tune.

There is no instant connection to the spiritual gifts, you have to work through the heavy matter of this level in order to get to them; you have to work through the heavy matter that surrounds your soul, that surrounds your thinking, that surrounds your heart. Once you have got rid of this through meditation, through dedication, through time and again returning to the God within, then you can start to work and we can start to work with you. It is no use for anyone to say, ‘I wish to work for God’, and then continue with their life and never think of God again. God demands time, He demands sacrifice, He demands discipline and all these things mean that your heart will open up to a world that is more beautiful than you have ever imagined and there is nothing more beautiful than being able to help another soul and to pass on the message. Discipline, harmony, the ability to give to God your life, these are the things that enable people to develop spiritually and constant prayer. Have a relationship with your God, talk to God constantly; He is the voice within.

Another question please.

Man near the back: I have a question about guides. Michael seems to get great pleasure from being able to talk to you, sit with you, gain knowledge from you. It is a personal question really, is that ever likely to happen to me? Will I ever find out who my guide is?

Persian Gentleman: My first question to you has got to be: what do you want from your guide?

Man near the back: Knowledge and to learn more about spirit, and to gain more knowledge about what I should be doing with my life.

Persian Gentleman: Your life is for living now. What you should be doing is what you are doing - you are living your life. But I have said before, earlier, you need to put aside time. Michael learnt to sit with us over a period of many years and to distinguish what were his thoughts from what were our thoughts. And your guide knows, your guides know that you wish to learn. So you have to set aside some time to listen to your own mind, to sit in a capsule of love, to surround yourself with the love of God. Never, ever open up without linking yourself to the God within. Michael has said it many times from platforms that people go to guides and treat them as gods. We are not gods – not in that sense - we are people and we go to God in order to speak to you. So you have to go to God in order to allow us to speak to you. And you have to treat God as your closest friend and say, ‘Father I don’t know what to do but You do, I don’t know what to think, show me what to think.’ You have to unlearn, you have to begin again, you have to be as a child and say, ‘Father lead me, if You wish to say something to me today, say something, if You do not, that is also fine.’

Trust what comes to you when you have prepared in this way, trust what comes to you when you have encapsulated yourself within the love of God and distanced yourself from the illusion, from the field that surrounds you, that separates you from your God. Do not expect trumpets, do not expect the sound of drums, do not expect fanfares and bright colours. Expect the still small voice that is with you now. And if something comes into your mind, observe it, look at it, see if something more is added to it, see if there are thoughts there that do not appear to be your thoughts. Write them down. See the concepts that are given to you in the shop, or on the bus, or in the shower, or in the bath. This is how your guide will work, your guide will work with you in off duty moments because when you are full, when you are surrounded by the minutia, the drama of this level, so many little things that don’t matter fill up the physical mind, surround the physical heart so it is difficult - if not impossible - for God to speak to you.

God speaks quietly; knowledge comes quietly. You will wake up one day and say, ‘I have never thought of it in that way before, I understand now.’This is what you should do: you should trust always. The human mind is such a cheat, the human mind says to people, ‘That cannot possibly be coming from anywhere else. That is coming from me. This is my imagination’.

You have to trust the God within. If you are a part of God (and you are) why is it so difficult to believe that God speaks to you? Please don’t get me started here! It is difficult to believe that God speaks to you because your religions say to you that he cannot possibly speak to you; he speaks to you from the chosen few. This is part of your illusion, you are kept down by your religion - religions that have nothing to do with God’s word - and these things are ingrained into you from being children and they separate you from God. You feel guilty about speaking to God and you feel that you have to go through the priest, or the vicar, or the other representatives of religion. Why? All men and women, all souls are created equally, they are each an equal spark of God. They have that connection to God. God speaks to you if you will allow Him to and such comfort will He will bring, such knowledge will He bring. He will help you to rediscover yourself, to redefine yourself. It takes courage, it takes time and, again, it takes discipline and with those things and with a faith that what you are hearing whilst you are in meditation, whilst you are separated from this world, is not you then you will progress.

You must also understand that all knowledge spiritually is yours now: it is only a matter of rediscovering it. That is what you are doing; you are not unlearning, you are re-learning, you are remembering but you have to give that voice of God a chance. I listen to God all the time - such a beautiful song, such beautiful songs God sings, wonderful symphonies and if I could convey my joy to you, I would. I am surrounding you now with energies but we need most of the energy in order to communicate with you but my life is happy, my life is blissful because I am connected to my God. I know that God will never ever let me down. True, we have to work at things but isn’t there a joy in that? That is the nature of God: to work at things and not to be stagnant, not to stand still to work at things, to discover, to open up, to remember, to expand.

Listen to your God and you will listen to your guide. Who your guide is unimportant, what he says is important. Perhaps at some stage he will reveal to you who he is. Until that day be patient and listen to the things that come to you. Why should he waste time telling you who he is, telling you his life-story when there is so much glory to reveal to you, so much knowledge to bring to you. Listen for what he says and not for who he is - who they are - because you have more than one guide. You have different friends that help you on different occasions; sometimes you are inspired by angels, sometimes you are inspired by the united thoughts of a group-soul, sometimes you will pick up that song of God, that wonderful song, and sing it yourself but only for a few moments and you will think, ‘I am truly happy and I don’t know why’. Imagine what it is like to sing that song, to hear that song, all the time. That is your destiny as souls, that is what you are going to; no coffins, no graves, you are going to glory, to bliss. You are going back home.

Another question please.

Jim: Could I ask a question? What should we be doing to bring more Light into this world?

Persian Gentleman: It is not that the light isn’t there, it is that the darkness that has given the impression that it has hold over the light.

Each of you, when I look at you this evening, is a powerhouse of light; each of you has a search light, a beacon, falling out from here (heart-centre) because that is who you are. You are beings of light. Why is that light not observed on Earth? Because the majority of souls are steeped in the darkness; they are comfortable with it, they prefer the darkness to the light - much as insects hide under a stone: if you pick up that stone, they scurry away.

You bring light into this world by the way that you live: by your attitudes towards people, by your attitude towards your work, by your attitude towards your house, the bricks in your house, the cutlery in your drawers, the duvet on your bed (ah, you didn’t know that I knew that word). Everything responds to the way that you perceive it. Isn’t it true that you can have a great day until someone tells you that you are looking ill? Isn’t it true that you can have a terrible day until someone tells you how wonderful you are looking or how much you mean to them?

You have to remember that your choice every day determines what happens to you and determines what happens to the people whose lives you touch. You can choose to align yourselves with the thoughts of millions of people who believe that this is a bad day and you contribute to all those souls having a bad day. You contribute to it! Or you can choose to align yourself with the Light, with those souls who are having a wonderful day. And that is what you must send out in everything that you do, in everything that you touch. Make your homes sanctuaries; as people come into your homes bless them, pray that they do not disturb the peace within them. Make your homes detached from this world and fill them with light. Everything you read fill with light, everything you watch fill with light, bless your food, bless your clothes, bless the chairs you sit on, the carpets you walk on, the light bulbs, every aspect of your house. Bless them; they will respond to that light and you will build a beacon of light within your house.

Attracted to that beacon of light will be people like me. To look at the Earth from my standpoint you can see the lights twinkling in the darkness. That is how we home in on people; we home in on Michael according to his vibrational signature: to the lights that he gives off that we recognise and we know exactly where he is. Your guides will know exactly where you are because of the light you give off. But other people will be attracted too. There are so many people who wish to work to clear up the Earth-plane but can’t get in. Not enough seats, not enough time, not enough people willing to put heart and soul into changing their inner world. So you will attract your guides, you will manifest the God within you and you will invite into your home people who can use your vibrations, the vibrations that you are creating by being happy, by being uplifted and send them out to help others.

Never be daunted by your task. The world would have you believe that you are a small fish in a very big and dark pond. What is does the world know? The world is an illusion, the world can be changed in a thought, in a heartbeat. Never be despondent; more is done by one person living in the Light for one day than by a hundred people who are submitting to the chaos of your world. Make your houses places of light; don’t argue, don’t argue with each other. Understand that very often that arguments are started because each of you as a spirit is psychic, each of you as a spirit is capable of picking up moods and the eddies and swirls that I have been speaking about. Very often you argue because you have picked some stray thought out of the reality around you and you take against someone and, in taking against someone, you destroy, you pull down all those bridges of light that you have built. Be forgiving, be loving and keep your houses safe, keep yourselves safe then everyone you touch, every place that you go to will be the better for you having touched them or been to those places.

Pay particular attention and pray, please, for the young people. The young people are lost because of the sins of the fathers. The young people are in a world that they did not make but they affected by it. They are affected by the violence of it, by the speed of it, by the selfishness of it. So I would ask you all at some time in your day, to pray for the children and to pray for those children who have work to do spiritually for there are many of them. You will live to see thought being overturned, convention being overturned but you will not do it physically; you will do it though the light that you bring into this world but not physically. The next generation will do that. Change is coming but change needs support, change needs your light and your help.

My friend, who Michael recognises as someone we call ‘the Big Indian’, is saying that I must answer three more questions and then we will give a talk and then we will withdraw. We have not used Michael publicly like this before and at the moment, he doesn’t quite know where he is although he can see lights in front of him because we have taken him to a place where he can hear me - although he won’t remember what I have when he comes back. It is a privilege to be able to use his facility.

Another question please! There is another question, ask me the question.

Ian: You mentioned the group soul earlier and a lot of different things have been written about that, I wonder if you could expand on the concept of the group soul.

Persian Gentleman: I have to give you a number to think about; it is the most significant number in the Universe. No other number is as powerful as it. The number denotes group souls, individuals, God - and the number is one.

ONE!

Your life beyond this veil, as you call it, is of oneness with God. There is a mistake often made here that people think that I am talking about oblivion, absorption. No, I am talking about recognition. On this side you believe yourself to be an individual. On that side you believe yourself to be an individual and also one with God and one with the people around you.

And when you pass to the spirit side of life, once you have got over the trauma of leaving behind the material world because it is not the trauma of dying that you will find traumatic - dying is nothing more than stepping through that doorway. Once you have settled in, as it were, you will find that you enjoy greatly talking to the people who come to you and the people that you can visit. You will find that there are still opportunities for you to work, for you to create, for you to sing, to dance, to gather in groups, to do whatever you want to do.

And you will find that there is a light that you can see from your solar plexus and that light, as I have said earlier, is a beacon and that light will attract to it similar lights and you will think, ‘My goodness I am in such harmony with this person and that person, we think in the same way’, and gradually you will think, ‘I want to spend more time with these people’ - not so that they swamp your life but so that they are there when you wish to enjoy their company and they yours. And slowly but surely, the magnetic effects from your solar plexus will draw people to you and you to them; like people. Like attracts like; it is not said as often as it was in your churches: ‘like attracts like’ and there is great pleasure in seeing the diversity of God’s creation through other souls but also seeing the harmony of other souls around you.

And your life on the spirit side will not be static; it moves onwards, it moves upwards. You will not wish to move onwards and upwards by yourself. There will be things that you wish to do, projects that you wish to accomplish on behalf of God and on behalf of yourself. And you will gravitate towards the people who will allow you to accomplish those projects; people that you are completely and utterly comfortable with. And so it is like a magnet pulling in iron filings and getting bigger all the time because a group of three becomes a group of sixty-three becomes a group of six million and three as like-minded souls on similar wavelengths, on similar vibrations of being, cluster together. They do not always live in one big house! They live together when they wish to be together but there is a unity and a growing recognition that here there is one mind but with different facets within it.

And then there comes a time where a group of people decide they will move onwards and upwards together; that they have a creative project perhaps, or scientific project perhaps, or they wish to investigate a certain facet of God (which may take millions of years as you measure time) and they decide that they will do that together. So the group soul comes together and the group soul can consist of people who are disincarnate and people who are still on the Earth-plane with the group soul deciding that it will not move on until all its members who are experiencing so much have got back to that base level.

And karma is then tied up with these people that you harmonise with and love so much. So there will be a ripple of karma and ripple of challenges and consequences going through the group soul. And certain members of that group soul may they decide under pressure to incarnate again, to go through certain things on behalf of the rest of the group. But always they are loved, always they are guided through this most special of circumstances and then, when they go back to the spirit world, they are welcomed back into the group once more and can travel onwards and upwards.

But group souls are more than this because the group then becomes magnetic to another group. The group moves up a level and becomes magnetic to another group and another group. So group souls become bigger; become sometimes many millions of souls all with one intent; all with many individuals within them but all with one intent - to move onwards to learn, to grow, to evolve and to love. It is exciting.

I belong to the group soul that Michael belongs to, to the group soul that Jane belongs to. He did not know that until recently but we are all of a similar vibration, which is why it is so easy for me to talk to him (or was once his charkas were opened and once he became aware of me).

We have a healing mission, we wish to heal the Earth. Not all group souls wish to do that; some wish to move onwards to discover more about the Universes. Universes plural! We wish to bring many of the souls that are now in darkness of thought into the Light; that is our wish. We have stayed behind for a great many years in order to do this. We are ready to move on but, having moved on, we will still reach down to the people who are beneath us on the spiritual ladder towards the Earth. Our purpose in moving on is to learn how to better to serve the souls on Earth.

Who else wants to speak to me? Are there any further questions?

Persian Gentleman: Should I ask one myself? What are we doing here, you and I, in this room on this Friday evening together? Why are we are here?

We are here to commune. God wishes communication between His souls. One of the greatest joys we that have is being able to communicate with each other in love, to link with each other, to harmonise with each other as I said earlier.

Things become far too complicated often in your churches. Too complicated and there is a focus on survival – always on survival. Why? Surely if you have been coming to a church for twenty to thirty years what is there left to prove regarding survival? The easier you make spirit-communication in your mind, the easier it is for us to speak to you. It is not some great mystery, it is down to linking with God, linking with the God within and with each other.

And what we are doing here is talking about the reasons that we exist; where we are going. Surely this is important to everyone because these questions are not being answered at this time. Your churches are about to change, they have to change. We look forward to times when people come into a church like this one to listen, to commune; not to seek evidence of life after death again and again and again and again! We feel sometimes that we are pulled like puppets into serving people, serving souls so that we can have a queue of people behind us to say, ‘I am alright, I am fine, I am alright, get on with your life, I am alright’.

Such an important message: Get on with your life! But there is so much more that we wish to bring through. We can only do this when people regularly meet for communion. Jesus talked of communion; he meant the communion of souls not the passing of the bread and the passing of the wine; that was just a memory, that was just a symbol. The communion of souls, the love between brothers and sisters that opens up all the worlds because, as I stand here, there are people above me who are listening in, who are contributing. I wish I could take you to those places, to those spheres. I wish I could show you the colours, show you the people there and say to you, ‘One day that will be you. One day that will be you’.

If you wish to work spiritually, work to change things, work to suggest to people who are in authority across your county, across your land in the churches and say, ‘Isn’t it time that we listened to the spirit? Isn’t it time that we had services for communication, not for survival-evidence but for communication’. How many times can we to tell you that your relatives are fine? They too wish you to communicate. I look forward to the time when your relatives are around you and you can sense it when your souls have been elevated to the point where you are aware that your mother is there, your father is there, your bother is there, your sister is there and they will talk to you. But you will come here to learn, for knowledge and we will stand next to the lectern in the spirit worlds (for there are great amphitheatres there where people come to learn) and we will teach on a variety of levels. We will teach the people on the level where the amphitheatres are but also we will be talking to you and the people from above will be feeding us with knowledge.

It is time for a quest to find out who you are.

The Rose Nun speaks: Michael is a little confused because I am a new speaker and don’t let his voice put you off because I am female.

I hid myself away during one life. I grew roses. I had a wonderful stone bedroom with a little cross in it and a bed and my roses. And I wondered if I had done any good with my life because I lived a long life. I was in my nineties when I passed to spirit and then I saw that all the times that I had prayed for people had helped, all the times that I had been silent had helped and all the times that I had been by myself in that little room had prepared me for the next place, for the next world. I was in a religious order but I was quiet a rebel; I just wanted to grow roses but I also wanted to pray for people.

In your creative times: if you garden, if you paint, if you imagine, if you daydream, if you love, in those times you are connected to God. In those times you are used. I found that I had been used so many times by the people from the spirit world, by my guides, by God to give out light. That is really what it is all about, giving out light to each other.

I was very fond of animals; I loved dogs, I loved puppies. I didn’t like to see animals treated cruelly. I pray my own personal prayer (because we have our own individual ambitions), I pray for a time when animals are treated far better in your world than they are at the moment. As my colleague asked you to pray for other souls I ask you to pray for animals, to pray that they are protected, that no cruelty comes to them. They are glorious spirits just as you are, just as I am and they deserve respect and love and peace. And you are part of the animal kingdom, how could you not be? The Earth that gave you a physical body is linked to all other life forms. You are part of every life form, pray for them all, be kind to them all, be loving to them all. As souls you will not always abuse them, you will not always eat them.

I have, for each of you, a rose. I have brought them from my garden on the spirit side because I want you to take something home tonight of beauty and each rose is a vibrant light, each rose has enough light in it to take each of you to the spirit world tonight. (Don’t worry you are coming back!) Tonight each of you will be taken by the power that is in that rose and that rose will be with you for fifteen days. Place it mentally in a position of power in your home and allow the light from it to help you and to uplift you. So many problems, I can see them - I do not have to be psychic (although I am) - I can see the problems: the problems with relatives, and the problems with things that don’t work, and the problems with money, and the problems with aches and pains. So many problems! I bring you the rose, each of you, to forget about those problems for fifteen days and fifteen nights.

There are two of us here; Michael calls me the Big Indian. I have taken souls across for many years. I wish you to know that I love you all. So simple to say, so infrequently said. And that we are bringing Michael back, he has never worked for this long in front of an audience. And we hope, we know, that we will speak to you again. My colleague does not wish to further fatigue Michael by stepping back into his vibrations but he too says, ‘I love you, each of you’. Love each other, love us, it brings us so close to you. All will be well.

Michael: Can you close with a prayer?

Jane: Heavenly Father, thank you for allowing this communication to take place. May we take the lessons that we have learnt out into the world and to spread the Light and to make this world a better place. We ask for your protection for everyone that they may get home safely and thank you for the work that the guides have done. Amen.

Trance demonstrations

Transcription of Michael’s first public trance demonstartion